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Mar 28, 2016 Paola Subacchi

米兰—过去20年中，大约五十万18到39岁的意大利人迁居国外，特别是德国、法国和英国等经济更有活力的欧盟国家。而这只是官方数字；实际数字可能要高得多，可能要多一倍有余。为什么意大利年轻人如此热衷于离开？

并非政治上得不到代表。2013年以来，意大利议会40岁以下代表比例从7%增加到13%。此外，目前意大利政府是发达国家中最年轻的之一（仅次于法国）。41岁的总理伦齐也是意大利历史上最年轻的总理。

尽管如此，意大利年轻人对祖国的状态和它所能提供的经济机会深感失望。事实上，尽管伦齐承诺实施旨在重振意大利经济和制度的改革——他也凭此赢得2014年大选——但此后仍有约90,000四十岁以下意大利人选择离开。

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Steven Kelly Apr 3, 2016

"What Europe Needs Most Is What It Fears Most: Migrants": http://www.huffingtonpost.com/european-horizons/what-europe-needs-most-is_b_9552236.html
- Peter Schaeffer Apr 3, 2016
  
  "What Europe Needs Most Is What It Fears Most: Migrants" - What a joke. Actually, what a sick joke. Europe needs more Molenbeeks? More Cologne's? More Banlieues? More Tournantes?. That migrants Europe is actually getting are a cradle-to-grave burden on taxpayers and society. This has been studied in many countries (UK, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Sweden, etc.) and the results are always the same. Importing a welfare dependent, high crime, low education population is a losing proposition.
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Stefano Mineo Mar 30, 2016

It may be interesting to point out how Mr. Renzi won power in 2014. He has never been elected by anyone ever. He first became head of his political party. Thanks to the platform of promises that made him gaining popularity among the unsatisfied/desperate voters, its party got lost of consensus at the European elections. Right afterwards he obliged the prime minister of the time, Enrico Letta, to step down (after having clearly reassured him that this would never happen). He asked the Italian parliament for a faith vote and became prime minister. It's worth noticing that at the time (and still nowadays) the Italian parliament was composed of people who were "elected" with a law that was already judged to be against the Italian constitution. The law, made by Berlusconi & Co. gives Italian people only the right to vote for a party, then the head of each party chooses who will seat at the Parliament. Meritocracy remains, of course, only an option.
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Lorenzo Paruscio Mar 29, 2016

I read many numbers, but I can't see the most important one and it's about the public debt. 135% on gdp

I really don't wanna know how many billions fly away every year from taxes to repay only interests, (should I still pay the interests of the Marshall Plan? :D)..and additionally we sold our best national asset for the same reason. How could we be competitive with this extra cost?

I hear always the same bad propaganda against Greece and Italy: lazy, corrupted etc.. the truth is that Greece and 2/3 of Italy are out of the monetary cartel in terms of productivity for many reasons and this cannot change with any reforms. It's a fact: different geography, different location, different neighbours, different access to the ocean, different economy and most of all different state of mind, we are in part socialist inside and any neo-liberal reforms don't suit us because it's a game that we cannot win. It's impossible the model to export more than import for everybody, Italy is surviving only because we are top class in some sectors, but we are out from the financial table.

The reason of emigration is this, we live in a peaceful monetary slavery, there's no credit, no growth and then unemployment.

P.S. We had commercial relationships with Libya for decades, then Nato killed Gheddafi and now we have to send our army to Libya for the peace project. Call it conspiracy theory, but reality looks quite clear.
- Jose araujo Mar 31, 2016
  
  Why would public debt be the most important?
  
  First, interest rates are low, second public deficit is highly correlated with growth, so without growth and employment, the public debt will grow.
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dan baur Mar 28, 2016

"government must also fulfill its promise of further improving labor-market flexibility and fighting corruption, including in the form of nepotism" - good luck with that, but history shows otherwise.
- Jose araujo Mar 31, 2016
  
  @Dan
  
  Italy, and other countries had the same structure in the 90's, and they were growing, so corruption and labor markets don't explain the current situation.
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Jose araujo Mar 28, 2016

Yet there are those who still play the mantra of structural reforms.

The EU is killing the future of our youth, and the social contracts of the less competitive countries are bound to be broken.

Resources are flowing from the periphery to central Europe, neocolonialism without colonies, cheap labor in exchange for loans and a market to dump all the noncompetitive products from the metropolis.
- Jose araujo Mar 31, 2016
  
  @Steve
  
  Couldn't agree more, although with free capital and people movement, even without the Euro, and without any natural stabilizers (common social security) , the EU project would also be at risk
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- Steve Hurst Mar 31, 2016
  
  @Jose
  
  The European crisis is the Euro
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- Jose araujo Mar 30, 2016
  
  @Steve
  
  IMHO, its because of the European crisis, and the austerity policies along with the increased precarization and general undervalue of labor.
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- Steve Hurst Mar 28, 2016
  
  @Jose
  
  Jose, You need to ask why 39% of Italian youth are unemployed
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